>> well, i think to see rand paul makes the point. we're not going to take 12 million people, 11 million people, whatever the number is, and we're not going to arrest them and incarcerate them and deport them. we're simply not going to do that. for me, joe, what i most focused on is that our economy needs these workers. america is in a global battle for capital and labor. and we need the labor. we need the labor at the high end. >> let me ask you. you know what the critics say? we have high unemployment rate. why can't americans do these jobs? >> well, look at my state. i'm your neighbor. and my state our biggest agriculture product is broilers, chickens. if you go to a chicken processing plant in mississippi, nobody in there speaks english. mississippians, alabamians, north carolinians, they don't want to take those jobs. texans don't want to take those jobs. we need the labor. we also need -- there's a lot of high, high end science technology engineering math talent in this country, students who come from overseas. we need them to s